Mikey

Arden Arden, my guy… you typed a whole essay just to prove you didn’t understand a single thing from the last convo. You keep saying ‘I never heard about the deaths in One Piece’ like that somehow means they didn’t happen. That ain’t a critique, that just means you never actually watched it 💀

And comparing OP to DBZ because both have ‘characters getting stronger’ is wild. That’s like saying Pokémon and Breaking Bad are the same show because both have humans in them.

You keep dodging every point thrown at you like this is Elden Ring and you’re fighting for your life.

First it’s the “bloodline” thing, then when that gets debunked you flip it into “well OP and DBZ are basically the same.”

Pick a stance before you start yapping again, bro.

Luffy didn’t get carried by his bloodline.

Tanjiro didn’t get carried by his bloodline.

But apparently YOU got carried by your headcanon because none of the points you keep repeating actually exist in the story 😭

And saying “if the deaths were a big deal they would’ve broken the internet” is peak casual fan energy.

Ace’s death, WB’s death, Merry’s funeral, Pedro, Yasuie, Noland, Corazon — all of these had the fanbase in TEARS. Just because your WiFi wasn’t plugged in during the moment doesn’t mean it didn’t shake the entire fandom.

You’re trying so hard to sound neutral, but every message just screams:

“I didn’t finish the show but I’m gonna argue anyway.”

DS having an ending doesn’t make it better.

OP being long doesn’t make it worse.

And pretending they have the “same story” is crazy when one is a global cultural shift and the other is demon Pokémon with katanas.

At this point you’re just repeating takes hoping one finally lands.

It’s okay to say “yeah I didn’t watch enough to debate this” — no one gonna flame you for that.

But the way you typed all that AND contradicted yourself in the same breath?

Yeah… pack it up, king.

This ain’t the hill you wanna respawn on 💀🔥

Arden And the funniest part? You “got tired” of the manga because you didn’t understand it, not because you outgrew it. That’s why every rebuttal you’ve thrown is built on misunderstanding, arrogance, and random assumptions.

You didn’t “lighten your bags.”

You just admitted you were never carrying anything in the first place.

Arden the wildest part is you just admitted you haven’t watched any of the anime you’ve been arguing about, and suddenly everything makes sense. You’ve been debating out of a vacuum this whole time, filling the gaps with headcanon and calling it analysis. No wonder you keep missing every point thrown at you — you don’t even have the baseline context.

You keep parroting this “bloodline” nonsense like it’s some smoking gun when it has almost zero impact on how Luffy develops as a fighter. He didn’t know he was Dragon’s son when he was grinding through early arcs. He didn’t unlock Gear 2 because of his family tree. He didn’t awaken his fruit because of his ancestors watching over him. He learned, he trained, he failed, he got humbled, and he built himself up every step of the way. That’s the core of his character. But since you haven’t seen the anime, that went right over your head.

Even Sanji — someone you’re probably lumping into your “bloodline” excuse — literally rejected his own lineage and became strong because he worked himself into the ground under Zeff. His genetics helped later, but his entire identity and strength came from training, discipline, and heart. You would know that if you actually watched One Piece instead of skimming panels and pretending it’s gospel.

And now you’re trying to twist my words to fit whatever narrative you’re desperate to push, acting like I claimed OP has “no plot armor” when every shonen has it to some degree. You’re not arguing with me — you’re arguing with your own made-up version of what you think I said. That’s why nothing you say actually addresses the points I laid out.

You keep calling yourself “old gen,” but bro, you sound like a man-child who’s mad that newer fans know more about the anime he pretends he outgrew. If anything, this whole thread shows you dipped before you even understood the basics of the story, then came back years later acting like an authority on something you barely engaged with.

Arden You claimed to be “old gen,” but you argue like some who watched Demon Slayer last year and decided that was the peak of the medium. You can’t call yourself “old gen” when you don’t even understand the basics of OP’s worldbuilding, character development, or thematic structure. You’re comparing DS hype spikes to a multi-decade cultural phenomenon like OP and expecting people to take that seriously.

If Demon Slayer’s faster pace is your only metric for “better,” just admit you don’t have the attention span for long-form storytelling. Don’t blame the series because you bounce the moment things require patience.

At this point it’s obvious:

You didn’t watch One Piece, you don’t understand One Piece, you twist arguments into whatever you wish I said, and you fall back on “hype train” excuses whenever you run out of material.

Bro, you didn’t just miss the plot — you missed the entire series.

Pack it up. You’re done.

Arden bro you’re not debating in good faith at this point — you’re just making up whatever fits your narrative and pretending I said it. You keep putting words in my mouth every time you run out of points, then act confused when you get called out. That’s not “old gen,” that’s just coping, my guy.

You said you “never heard” of major One Piece deaths… obviously, because you’ve never actually watched the series beyond out-of-context clips on TikTok. Anyone who’s even SEEN Marineford knows how insane the emotional weight of OP deaths are. But instead of admitting you barely followed the story, you try to act like the series has no stakes. That’s not an argument — that’s a confession.

You keep calling OP “DBZ Pirate” like that means anything. They’re completely different universes, different power systems, different narrative structures. You can’t compare Demon Slayer’s tiny, self-contained world to One Piece’s massive multi-continent worldbuilding and act like they’re the same level. Demon Slayer covers one region — One Piece builds a literal planet full of cultures, history, politics, races, islands, factions, and power systems. That’s not “the same thing,” that’s you not paying attention.

And your bloodline take is straight goofy. Luffy didn’t one-shot his way into Gear 5 because of “bloodline.” He trained, innovated, got folded multiple times, adapted, used his fruit creatively, and awakened it through sheer struggle. Meanwhile you act like Tanjiro’s bloodline doesn’t matter when he literally inherited Sun Breathing potential from his dad, and Nezuko’s daylight resistance is tied to her own unique lineage. You turned around and contradicted yourself in the same breath, bro.

Then you randomly accuse me of “making anime my career.” That’s how I know you’re out of arguments — you’re just projecting things nobody said. You’re losing so hard you’re inventing dialogue that never happened. That’s fanfiction, not debate.