Mikey

Arden Arden, my guy… you typed a whole essay just to prove you didn’t understand a single thing from the last convo. You keep saying ‘I never heard about the deaths in One Piece’ like that somehow means they didn’t happen. That ain’t a critique, that just means you never actually watched it 💀

And comparing OP to DBZ because both have ‘characters getting stronger’ is wild. That’s like saying Pokémon and Breaking Bad are the same show because both have humans in them.

You keep dodging every point thrown at you like this is Elden Ring and you’re fighting for your life.

First it’s the “bloodline” thing, then when that gets debunked you flip it into “well OP and DBZ are basically the same.”

Pick a stance before you start yapping again, bro.

Luffy didn’t get carried by his bloodline.

Tanjiro didn’t get carried by his bloodline.

But apparently YOU got carried by your headcanon because none of the points you keep repeating actually exist in the story 😭

And saying “if the deaths were a big deal they would’ve broken the internet” is peak casual fan energy.

Ace’s death, WB’s death, Merry’s funeral, Pedro, Yasuie, Noland, Corazon — all of these had the fanbase in TEARS. Just because your WiFi wasn’t plugged in during the moment doesn’t mean it didn’t shake the entire fandom.

You’re trying so hard to sound neutral, but every message just screams:

“I didn’t finish the show but I’m gonna argue anyway.”

DS having an ending doesn’t make it better.

OP being long doesn’t make it worse.

And pretending they have the “same story” is crazy when one is a global cultural shift and the other is demon Pokémon with katanas.

At this point you’re just repeating takes hoping one finally lands.

It’s okay to say “yeah I didn’t watch enough to debate this” — no one gonna flame you for that.

But the way you typed all that AND contradicted yourself in the same breath?

Yeah… pack it up, king.

This ain’t the hill you wanna respawn on 💀🔥

Arden And the funniest part? You “got tired” of the manga because you didn’t understand it, not because you outgrew it. That’s why every rebuttal you’ve thrown is built on misunderstanding, arrogance, and random assumptions.

You didn’t “lighten your bags.”

You just admitted you were never carrying anything in the first place.

Arden the wildest part is you just admitted you haven’t watched any of the anime you’ve been arguing about, and suddenly everything makes sense. You’ve been debating out of a vacuum this whole time, filling the gaps with headcanon and calling it analysis. No wonder you keep missing every point thrown at you — you don’t even have the baseline context.

You keep parroting this “bloodline” nonsense like it’s some smoking gun when it has almost zero impact on how Luffy develops as a fighter. He didn’t know he was Dragon’s son when he was grinding through early arcs. He didn’t unlock Gear 2 because of his family tree. He didn’t awaken his fruit because of his ancestors watching over him. He learned, he trained, he failed, he got humbled, and he built himself up every step of the way. That’s the core of his character. But since you haven’t seen the anime, that went right over your head.

Even Sanji — someone you’re probably lumping into your “bloodline” excuse — literally rejected his own lineage and became strong because he worked himself into the ground under Zeff. His genetics helped later, but his entire identity and strength came from training, discipline, and heart. You would know that if you actually watched One Piece instead of skimming panels and pretending it’s gospel.

And now you’re trying to twist my words to fit whatever narrative you’re desperate to push, acting like I claimed OP has “no plot armor” when every shonen has it to some degree. You’re not arguing with me — you’re arguing with your own made-up version of what you think I said. That’s why nothing you say actually addresses the points I laid out.

You keep calling yourself “old gen,” but bro, you sound like a man-child who’s mad that newer fans know more about the anime he pretends he outgrew. If anything, this whole thread shows you dipped before you even understood the basics of the story, then came back years later acting like an authority on something you barely engaged with.

Arden You claimed to be “old gen,” but you argue like some who watched Demon Slayer last year and decided that was the peak of the medium. You can’t call yourself “old gen” when you don’t even understand the basics of OP’s worldbuilding, character development, or thematic structure. You’re comparing DS hype spikes to a multi-decade cultural phenomenon like OP and expecting people to take that seriously.

If Demon Slayer’s faster pace is your only metric for “better,” just admit you don’t have the attention span for long-form storytelling. Don’t blame the series because you bounce the moment things require patience.

At this point it’s obvious:

You didn’t watch One Piece, you don’t understand One Piece, you twist arguments into whatever you wish I said, and you fall back on “hype train” excuses whenever you run out of material.

Bro, you didn’t just miss the plot — you missed the entire series.

Pack it up. You’re done.

Arden bro you’re not debating in good faith at this point — you’re just making up whatever fits your narrative and pretending I said it. You keep putting words in my mouth every time you run out of points, then act confused when you get called out. That’s not “old gen,” that’s just coping, my guy.

You said you “never heard” of major One Piece deaths… obviously, because you’ve never actually watched the series beyond out-of-context clips on TikTok. Anyone who’s even SEEN Marineford knows how insane the emotional weight of OP deaths are. But instead of admitting you barely followed the story, you try to act like the series has no stakes. That’s not an argument — that’s a confession.

You keep calling OP “DBZ Pirate” like that means anything. They’re completely different universes, different power systems, different narrative structures. You can’t compare Demon Slayer’s tiny, self-contained world to One Piece’s massive multi-continent worldbuilding and act like they’re the same level. Demon Slayer covers one region — One Piece builds a literal planet full of cultures, history, politics, races, islands, factions, and power systems. That’s not “the same thing,” that’s you not paying attention.

And your bloodline take is straight goofy. Luffy didn’t one-shot his way into Gear 5 because of “bloodline.” He trained, innovated, got folded multiple times, adapted, used his fruit creatively, and awakened it through sheer struggle. Meanwhile you act like Tanjiro’s bloodline doesn’t matter when he literally inherited Sun Breathing potential from his dad, and Nezuko’s daylight resistance is tied to her own unique lineage. You turned around and contradicted yourself in the same breath, bro.

Then you randomly accuse me of “making anime my career.” That’s how I know you’re out of arguments — you’re just projecting things nobody said. You’re losing so hard you’re inventing dialogue that never happened. That’s fanfiction, not debate.

Arden you picked the wrong hill to die on. You keep waving “bloodline” like it’s a cheat code while Luffy spent arcs getting absolutely wrecked, learning from it, and coming back ten times harder. You act like Gear 5 was handed to him with a participation ribbon — it was forged through failure, training, and losing people he loved. Saying One Piece has “no death” is peak ignorance — Ace, Whitebeard, Oden, and hundreds of others exist to prove you wrong.

You calling Demon Slayer a “generational impact” while admitting you only vibe with short, tidy endings says everything: you want instant gratification, not worldbuilding. One Piece built a universe people still obsess over after decades; Demon Slayer rode a hype train, pulled into the station, and that was it.

This isn’t an opinion anymore — it’s a history lesson you flunked. Log off, do five minutes of reading, and then come back when you can argue without sounding like a clipshow stan. Career: finished.

Arden My guy, your whole argument falls apart the second you said “OP has no death.”

Ace. Whitebeard. Oden. Rosinante. Merry. Pedro. Yasuie.

Death is literally one of the core emotional pillars of One Piece. Characters die and the story changes forever because of it.

And the “bloodline” take?

Luffy didn’t get strong because of some chosen-one genetics — his fruit used to be considered trash until he trained, fought, failed, and refined real technique. The only thing his heritage gave him was a slightly easier time awakening Conqueror’s Haki, which still required discipline and mastery.

Meanwhile you conveniently forgot Tanjiro:

He learns Sun Breathing specifically because of his lineage.His father literally passed down ancestral forms.Nezuko’s immunity to sunlight is a bloodline mutation.

So if “bloodline power-ups” are your line in the sand…

Demon Slayer crosses it too.

Also “DS has death if you fail” doesn’t make it deeper — it just means the story is shorter.

One Piece has generational momentum, layered world-building, cultural impact across two decades, and emotional continuity because it isn’t a 4-season speedrun to the credits.

Length ≠ filler.

Length = scope.

DS had hype for 3 years.

OP has held cultural space for 26+.

And it wasn’t because of plot armor.

It was because the story is actually worth remembering.

TL;DR:

Demon Slayer hits quick.

One Piece hits forever.

Pack it up and come back when you understand the difference.

Arden you have an odd obsession with labeling One Piece as “DBZ Pirate”, it’s almost as if it lives rent free in your head. There’s no amount of cope for you to realize how compelling the One Piece series truly is because you favor a new gen anime more. It’s ok to have childish takes, you’ll grow out of it eventually. You state the DS gets people more hype than OP, when there are many times where OP has broken the internet way more times than DS. In fact, a random side character has more depth than Shinobu’s entire adopted family history. DS anime is literally about to end, and the hype will die sooner than you think, while OP will continue to thrive from moments that impact the emotions of its viewers. You are looking at the newer era of anime and considering it as better than a generationally and statistically proven top tier anime series. The bigger picture here is that DS’s influence is widely among the younger audience, while OP has reached both old and new people in the span of its existence. So the “generational impact” that DS displays isn’t as widespread as you’d think compared to OP. And don’t be bringing up “oh this anime has the characters growing stronger every single time, it’s so unrealistic and not relatable!!!” When Tanjiro and the others literally had to train and also grow to even scratch Muzan. The factor of anime characters growing stronger isn’t an uncommon thing, you just don’t accept it because of your perception of anime in general. Every Shonen Anime character has to grow stronger in one way or another, there’s no escaping that. It also allows the audience to witness their favorite characters new feats and abilities, making the reveal of their newfound powers all the more exciting. I’ve already acknowledged DS as a decent anime series, but in no way is it outperforming OP any time soon.

Arden pack it up new gen, One Piece has a bigger generational impact than Demon Slayer ever did bozo. “At least Demon Slayer has an ending” yeah a pretty mid one at that. Demon Slayer’s overall plot line is generic and plain. Your lack of exposure to actual peak media makes you bias to favor absolute mid because of your generation’s overall perception and comprehension. Pack it up butter cup. One Piece will always outshine Demon Slayer.

Za One Piece in general isn’t “aah” then if you consider the manga to be your favorite. You can’t just call it a bad series entirely if you favor one of its form of media. The anime has its rough moments, but it’s not as terrible as you stated. The overall combination of peak arcs overshadow the bad ones.

Luffy wants him on his crew. He’s too persistent to just face denial, so Loki would join eventually when he finds out Luffy is a capable man who has what it takes to lead a powerful pirate crew. Plus this is possibly Loki’s last chance to set out to sea since he got rejected by Xebec.

Conser below what exactly? Peak storytelling, world building, manga sales, cultural influence? The only thing Demon Slayer excels in is animation, not overall plot. One Piece owns Demon Slayer in most categories. Pack it up new gen 🥀

At the current state of the anime, Beru would beat Igris. By the end of the manwha/light novel however, Igris would have the upper hand as he has way more combat experience than Beru does. If Igris still had Baran’s Longsword before giving it away to Cha Hae-In, he would be immensely more powerful and can take on Beru without a doubt.